i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. . Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. #1. If there were 10. . If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. hal houle. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. First he told me to forget. Those who have learned CTE and become successful with it. Watching the new "Truth Series" videos from Stan I get what is going on with the different lines. you have nothing to lose. . I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. pj chgo . Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. There are many Great's with completely different strokes and "aiming" methods. . He started all of his destruction of aiming systems, Hal Houle, CTE, etc. Dave has CTE on his web-site, also Hal Houle's 3-angle system. By: Search Advanced search…Years ago, in a galaxy far, far away (in RSB, an internet pool newsgroup before AZ came along) he labeled Hal Houle a heretic for preaching this mystical and magical system called CTE. A. Aiming ConversationThis is THE BOOK, detailing exactly how CTE Pro One can improve your game. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:I will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. This is also the explanation why balls can "bend" or find. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. The idea behind the slip stroke is minimizing the length that your cue moves on the back stroke. The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. Hal, what he created, and those who followed will live forever. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. . this came about with lateral thinking - thinking far outside the box by hal houle and then stan shuffett. To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. I personally enjoyed his stories of his own personal life the most and called him many times just to. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be teaching one of Hal. . So much easier it's mind numbing. 5 = 4. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. I believe. Instruction & Ask the pros. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. S. Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. . By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Hal helped so many people over the years never asking for a dime for his time. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. Search titles only. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. I am being swamped by email and PMs about Hal Houle's aiming system. Silver Member. My name is Hal Houle. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. . But these words already existed and weren't redefined or coined. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. Ask The InstructorIt's a useless question, no one knows. Stan Shuffett, a pool player and instructor from Kentucky, took deep interest in CTE and refined it to his own system known as CTE Pro/One. . as long as the thread stays alive, and you post. It's this period of time that Jimmy Moore incorporated his pivot aiming technique. Stan has worked on the center to edge system over the past 10 years and refined it into a method called “Pro One. For those who think he's guilty of false advertising and claims, you're. hang in. Joey: You know, an aiming system where you aim from the center of the cue ball to the edge of the object ball and then pivot and. Was great to hear his stories. . Still doing it. If this is true, there must be something VERY, VERY POSITIVE (AND SOUND) to. . Started playing in 1934. There are. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. I'm a completely new player. he did the same thing to hal houle. . ) I will be more than happy. Ron Vitello also teaches one that is dubbed 90/90 which is also incredibly precise and accurate. he said he doesn't have to!!! lol that's classic right there!Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). Basically the system is about a limited number of aiming points Full Ball hit 3/4 Ball hit (approx 15 degrees) 1/2 Ball hit (approx 30 degrees) 1/4 Ball hit (approx 45 degrees) And the Thin Hit Do a search for Hal Houle for. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. So if you simply looked at a shot as a 3/4 cover which I think is about 15 degrees then you could adjust a little to the right or left and see if you are on. THE 3 LINES. . I found a post from 2009 from someone who said Hal Houle told them the guy was an awesome player from out of Cochrans, another was the Ripleys Believe it or not post in one of Bob Byrnes books about the 180 ball run. Therefore a cue ball has 360 ticks and an object ball has 360 ticks at their respective circumferences. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. JoeyInCali Maker of. 5" corner pocket (less from closer, more from farther away). The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. Gulfport, Mississippi. and I get all da rolls. . Search titles only. View more. . All I can I can say for now is that NO ONE loved pool more than Hal. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System by Billiards Forum Editor's Desk | Sep 30, 2014 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards New Post - Hal Houle Point and Pivot SystemA new post has been published titled "Hal Houle Point and Pivot System". I've met Hal a few times. . . After much consideration, I have made a business decision to indefinitely postpone the creation of a CTE/PRO ONE video. Note: I'm not saying that Hal came up with the light theory. Billiards (RSB) describing how only 3 lines were required to make nearly all cut shots on a 2:1 pool table with angles from 0 to about 90 degrees. When I first learned of Hal Houle, I immediately sought him out because I heard he was a very knowledgeable man. " Meeting Hal made me addicted to information. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. Directly quoting Mr. . He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. As you now know, it's as simple as simple can be just like Shishkabob created by Hal Houle decades ago. Instruction & Ask the pros. ”Hal Houle Point and Pivot System by Billiards Forum Editor's Desk | Sep 30, 2014 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards New Post - Hal Houle Point and Pivot. This is just what I've heard. . That's going to change. Began instructing pool in 1945. i usually use this aim point i have three pattern like picture below in aiming OB to pocket but sometimes i nearly make a shot sometimes undercut/overcut a. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. 1/4, 1/2, center and maybe edge to edge. Forum omniscient ones scoffed, belittled, and beat it into the ground mainly. Search titles only. you read his posts and you know he doesn't have a clear understanding about these pivot systems and he keeps putting his foot in his mouth. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. Watched the World 10 Ball Championships2022. CENTER, 1/2 WAY BETWEEN CENTER AND EDGE, AND EDGE. It also had absolutely nothing to do with CONTACT POINTS. JoeyInCali Maker of Joey Bautista Cues. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. . Hal Houle changed my life. . Hal Houle has many systems, so you start from a false premise. I am using the ORIGINAL HAL HOULE SYSTEM. Very sorry to hear about Hal Houle's passing. A few years ago I was working on an aiming system of my own design (as far as I know this is my own design, I may have been inspired by something I've seen, but I don't think so). Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. IT WAS ILLOGICAL AND STILL IS TO MANY As a young man Hal Houle traveled around the country with Greenleaf as they made their way through one pool room after another with Hal doing his best to keep Greenleaf off the booze until they at least. you have nothing to lose. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. You can go past center to get to outside . From. Silver Member. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. Started playing in 1934. As I stated in another post, Hal Houle had over 20 other aiming systems beside CTE. . Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Silver Member. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. S. Aiming ConversationThanks to another member for sending a PM to me with this system he found on the internet called "Splitting The Difference". I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . Whenever someone asks me how long I’ve been playing, I always say, "Since I met Hal. . By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ? Hal was the only pool player in his family tree and the community here on AZB probably knows more about his pool life, adventures and accomplishments than they do, so Sunny asked if I would ask the members here to post their stories about Hal so they can be read at his funeral. & Mrs. Once he showed me which bulb and where on the object ball, it magically went in the hole. . Because Hal Houle and Stan Shuffett created them Click to expand. Aiming ConversationHal Houle (rhymes with pool) gave his knowledge free of charge and welcomed anyone to call him at any time to learn more about his aiming systems. A few are not pleasant from those that do not. Pro's try to explain how they "Aim". Jul 15, 2008 #8 Bval Use The Aiming System That Efren Reyes Uses. . A: I studied aiming systems under Hal Houle, who invented many aiming system variants. M is a by-product of Hal Houle's teaching. In this example the pot required is a thinner hit than half ball, lets say 35 degrees. But he said he understood the concept, so I gave him the okay. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system. . Jamie Ferrel - Perfect Aim as reported by Joey A. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle showed this to me and it worked. Hal Houle. I don't care if I change your mind. Jul 25, 2005. ) I will be more than happy. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. #1. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. . No, it's because their only target is and has been CTE, Hal Houle, and now Stan which started 18 years ago. Koop - it works, I'm just not smart enough to grasp itOn the other hand, in honor of Hal Houle I can also say there is only one shot on a pool table! Hu Click to expand. GaryB AzB Silver Member. Yes, the process is VISUAL and pivot based with VERY strong math and geometric support. Pool lost a pioneer. A. I have read a few CTE threads but not really posted much. Aiming ConversationStan's Truth series illuminates the secrets of CTE that Hal Houle purposefully failed to provide when he first discussed this aiming system. . ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. Since I first met him in July 2007, I felt as though I wasted 15 years of my pool life. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. . It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. . As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. Hal Houle . Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. 0. Dyer, writing in Billiards Digest: "One other detail about the pool legend - and an extremely. Hal told me to stop before I got into that trench. In light of DCP's thread, I'm curious to what everyone thinks about what realistic goals a player who is serious about the game should set? And also a. S. By: Search Advanced search…Secret Aiming Systems ™ Coach (THE designated successor to Hal Houle, inventor of many of the Aiming Systems) Professor: Billiard University; Certified PAT ™ Examiner (the Playing Ability Test) Founder: Elephant Balls, Ltd. His gem being Center To Edge. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. I think Hal was largely correct in that assessment. By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. Hal, what he created, and those who followed will live forever. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. I have shown Hal Houle's quarters system to APA 3s and 4s and watched them start making shots way above their skill level. Hal Houle, during his research with aiming came to understand that the spheres we use for playing pool have 360 ticks on their circumferences. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Thanks for taking the time to post, Dr. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. as long as the thread stays alive, and you post. . S. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. He cues on the edge of the cue ball and then on the last stroke moves to. . 5 + 2. Stan and Landon Shuffett took an interest in Hal's CTE and they both met and studied with Hal. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. As far as systems go, its as good as any, and an excellent place to start. Q. Search titles only. Hal Houle I totally agree. If there were 10. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. Basic aiming systems “aiming” FAQ page on my website. the method fits the definition. A chat with Master Instructor Stan Shuffett today reveals this :thumbup2:: Stan says. My name is Hal Houle. I'm going to explain how to shoot this shot into the upper right corner pocket using real CTE. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. . Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. " Hal's greatest joy was. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. Stan originally got the idea from Hal Houle who developed a number of aiming systems over the course of his lifetime. . you have nothing to lose. . Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. I then listened to them for several more hours while on my route as a mailman today so I could really let it sink into my subconscious. If there is throw, then aiming exactly at the "contact point" where the ghost ball was should cause you to miss. . . They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. Literally the week before Hal sought me out I spent several hours on the table with my friend Chris McDaniel working on a. Guess the system. Yes, I aim to put ball in pocket. I don't have the numbers anymore, as they were in a notebook I can. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. I hear Stan Shuffet is coming out with a free video on U Tube to explain "center to edge" aiming. Nothing any more complicated than those 3 lines. ALL of which had a pivot including CTE. (edited December 26th, Amazon ended the free promotion and the book is now $1. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. Hal Houle was a very unique individual! Hal was intelligent, had a great wit and lived a long, varied and interesting life. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Problem is, he had to stand there and correct me on every shot because I just didn't get it. . Harold G. Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. It's the method, not the final position. A. halhoule AzB Silver Member. Would you, Mike Howerton, head honcho of AZ Billiards and of sound body and mind (most of the time). Aiming ConversationDo any of the pros actually use these systems? I remember about a year ago I tried to use the ghost balls system but I found that it could fail at clutch moments. Hal understood what they were doing in order to connect with the angles that lead to pockets even if they had no clue. showed me his swivel system (similar to Hal's system), light aiming system and shadow aiming. Apr 24, 2017 #98 cookie man said: I got immediate results from CTE. Was great to hear his stories. Stan's overall knowledge and understanding of pool is off the charts. Most are good honest requests to learn. Began instructing pool in 1945. Was great to hear his stories. . I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. Or at least completely new to wanting to be a damn good player. TATE AzB Gold Mensch. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. Search titles only. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. I watched all dvds I listed above and they are some good and some bad. That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. RecSportBilliards in 1996. . Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue 1 tip to the right of the CB center through the right edge of the OB. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. )From the very first ball i hit with Hal Houle on the other end of the phone . Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. Hal Houle figured it out over 70 years ago. . I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Search titles only. . You won't be so lucky. All of Hal's systems used the 3 line fractions. Barbara Houle. A. For 13 years I have been on a mission to solve Center to Edge and I have accomplished what I set out to do. View more. I realized. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. I lived in Greeley, about an hour away from Denver at the time. A. By: Search Advanced search…Ron V. Hal Houle definitely made life easier for the aiming process of pocketing balls. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. Search titles only. Stan Shuffett refined it and it is called "CTE Pro One". 5railkick said: I read on the other forum that Hal uses a 2 angle method to aim every shot. . In Stan Shuffett's own words: "Nearly six years of blood, sweat, and tears have all been worth it. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. Sep 17, 2014 #11The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. . It was posted here about 6. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. I have been playing pool since I was seven, shining shoes in bars, I'm 63. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. 403 court search results for people named "Paul Houle" in the United States. FYI, I just updated my online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases. To Freddie Agnir and others for spending time on the table showing what you learned from Hal and being willing to help. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. JOEY AGUZIN Feb 17, 2003, 1:13:44 PM to Well, I haven't confirmed this rumor but have it on good authority that a well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Subsequent phone calls continued to develop a hunger for more information about CTE and as Hal's health continued to decline, Stan was forced to do his own study on CTE. Well beyond the life of the. Stan's Truth series illuminates the secrets of CTE that Hal Houle purposefully failed to provide when he first discussed this aiming system. Tom Simpson was 20 years younger than Hal. He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. He never charged for lessons, often given over the phone. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. . If you want. I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. I want to credit Hal rightly so don't confuse Houle's Pivot Aim with his controversial fractions and degrees aim system. Instruction & Ask the pros. this particular HAL HOULE aiming system. i teach professional aiming systems. In TP A. he was beat to death, hung out to dry, and CRITIZED by all the nay sayers, who could not understand what he could. . On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. When I first started on the various forums nearly. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly.